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Hi Seth! I’ll keep my two questions short….
1. My child is 7 and in first grade. What is a good age to determine that a child is 2e?
2. Why do you recommend a neuropsych instead of a clinical psychologist for evaluations? I tried to make an appointment with a neuropsych based off your video, but they said they only see children with brain injuries. Thank you so much! -Mom in AZ
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What’s going on with me stuff with Seth perler.com executive function coach of Boulder, Colorado. I have a struggling students navigate thing called education. Coming to you for my couch today cuz I’m sick. I don’t feel so good. But I want to get her a Blog out blog out to you going to do to today. The first one here is about to eat kids and in particular space on this email. I sent that recognize you have so many people to help and don’t want to steal your time. So he made two questions short one. My child is 7 in in first grade. What’s a good age to determine that a child is to E2? Why do you recommend a neuropsych instead of clinical psychologist for evaluations? Number one? What is a good age to determine if your child has two? Here’s what I would recommend to your parents. Be on the lookout for if your child has to eat or whatever your child is as early as humanly possible read up on things learn educate yourself read my Tui video article which is exhaustive and the PDF that comes with it, which has a mass of checklist is not the end-all be-all and I don’t really like the Box things then but I give you all these metrics to look at and just consider and read through the article watch the video thoroughly read it many times as much as you can on Touhy about gifting it’s about different types of disabilities. So you want to find out as early as you can that here’s my concern. There are two easy kids where it’s relatively black and white. You know, they’ve got a learning challenge disability. It’s very clearly identifiable for whatever reason is that type of thing. You know, they’re gifted in some area or multiple areas and it’s just very clear black and white easier to see what the needs of the kids like that is like what concerns me is what I get a lot of in my practice which is kids that I say that they’re in the gray Zone. Cancer in the gray zone are there are two types of them and it’s it’s a dangerous place to be because when they’re in the gray Zone, they’re misunderstood and they’re not seen clearly when they’re misunderstood. They’re not Sinclair their needs are often. Not met not only are there needs often. That map of their often Shame by well intention at all. So you got all these out that are going to be in your kid’s life. We got their teachers who got their parents got counselors. You got admin you got support staff you got tutors whenever they’re all these islands that are going to be in their life. We have the kids in the grey Zone what’s going to happen is that you’re going to run into a lot of those people who will not get your kid and you’re going to be having conversations with people in your life. Where you going? Yeah. This teacher just doesn’t get my kid. They just don’t get it. I just can’t wait for the school year to be over what you know, what? Why are they so rigid with my kids, you know, we try to commit whatever you’re going to have those type of conversation. So this is what the grades on it. So it looks like this weekend. their gifts overshadow their deficits and their Challenger is and their disabilities. So they’ve got these gifts and a example of a place where I see this lot. Sorry. I’m so sick. My head is not fun when clearly place right see this lot. Is a kid who has very high permeability. So you have a young kid, they might have incredible deep conversation. You know it gif these our conversations that other kids and their greater not having with adults like they’re really high level in terms of their ability to articulate something so they and then they have a disability but if the disabilities overshadowed by this this the type of kid where at also say, I know the kids right? I know they can do it. I’ve seen him do before but just not trying hard enough. They’re just not working. They’re just not motivated. They’re just not being displayed. They’re being willful. They’re just choosing they just won’t do it. It’s not that they can’t hurt us. So this so if there’s a disability that’s interfering with things and the adults are saying yeah, but I know that they’re capable because I see it in this area. That’s one of the type of gray cats. The others have a great cat is where you have the disabilities overshadow the guess. So this is a kid with a disability is so in your face. So this and you see it all the time. It’s very easy to identify a really interfere is a lot but they have these gifts that aren’t being noticed that aren’t being developed that these kids are not seen for those things and they’re focusing all on the disability. So those are the kids that I worry about it these kids in the gray zone now all kids. a complicated then you got your gift the kids that are complicated. You got your kids with the stories that are complicated. Then you got your two weekends and they’re super super super complicated. I don’t want you to leave this video thinking we can just figure something out and get them on the right track and get everything fixed. These red shoes are going to be dealing with for years and I think that’s sometimes hard for parents and teachers to understand. And it’s okay. Life, you know where complicated people. so But in order to deal with these complications you can’t pretend it’s simple. And we can approaches if it’s if it’s as simple and we can just do some tasks and do some scores and do some interventions and follow the IEP and 504 and everything will be okay and in reality. Daddy is you got this kid? You want to have a good future. They’re going to need certain skills and knowledge. Have a good future. There’s no way around it. Are we developing that are we personalize customize Taylor differentiate great educational experiences that are relevant to that human being to develop their strength help them with her challenges, like give them everything that they need. How are we going to meet her in the way that we’re going to do that is by being clear. You’re asking my question. When’s a good time to determine if the to eat? The earlier the sooner you’re clear on this and that the staffs are clear the better we’re going to be able to meet their needs. Question number two. Why do I recommend a neuropsych set of a clinical psychologist? How to make an appointment the nervous type based off your video but they said they only see children’s brain injuries. Thank you so much not all in the receipts likes only see kids with brain injuries. I don’t know how big of an area is population-wise you live in I know you’re in Arizona. Thank you for a raise from Arizona by the way, but I don’t know if you’re in Phoenix or if you’re in a small area like Prescott or something like that, but they’re in a neuropsych that do sew the weather like there a sex as they cast a very wide net of testing. They do several different ass is huge battery. They do it over the course of a couple days. It really get to know your child. So now let me that they’re going to be better than a clinical psychologist not necessarily. What I would say is you want someone where there’s relationship if you have a clinical psychologist who does valuations you trust who you got who’s fun? You have a great relationship with and you can walk away from that person with answers to your questions. That’s what matters. You could go to the best nurse. I can the world at least on paper. And walk away with your husband doesn’t help you anything. You just pay $3,000 to be like what the heck did we just do what? It’s a stack of papers mean? How does this help us? Whoever you go to I want you to walk away. With answers not all the answers back with some clarity. You should be walking away going. Wow. This is open their eyes to some things with much better picture. So a psychologist can certainly do that. So I don’t underestimate anybody keep doing research on your own but I would call three or four or five of them call a couple psychologist in couple no sex and ask them the question I said that video which is when I leave here. Am I going to have answers my questions and I’m going to walk out with my head spinning in the stack of papers and not being able to interpret the sign papers. How are you going to support me to understand the value of this testing? So that my thing was that so I don’t care who does it you just want answers. So I got to get my name is Tuff Stuff products, If you haven’t signed up for my website, go ahead and subscribe a lot of great stuff for helping complicated kids and subscribe on YouTube and give it a thumbs up leave a comment do whatever you can to support me and get these ideas out to more family so that we can start work is I hopefully will not be sick much longer and I hope you are doing well take