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First, you are the best! Love all the help you provide EF-challenged kids!
Question on your simple schoolwork system: How do you tell high school kids to manage carrying all of these separate folders/comp books? Most times they can’t go to locker til lunch and may have 3-4 classes to prepare for — that’s kind of why the zipped 3-ring binder is helpful — but the ONLY reason! 🙂
Most schools these days do not let kids carry around their backpacks (safety reasons). I’m afraid my freshman will leave his science stuff in math and then move on to Spanish. Any suggestions you have would be great! Thank you. — Nicole
Here are my tips as explained in the vlog:
- Consider AM PM setup
- Color coding
- Type of folder
- Zip binder, remove rings
- Moleskins or composition books
- Help student practice walking through the process MANY times
- When to do it “for” them?
- Baby steps, persistence
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Hey, what’s up, parents and teachers, it’s me set this up Perler., Hope you’re having a great day. It is spring spring break is upon us. The time of the dip. A lot of things are falling apart of this is our final push for the year. We’re getting into what I call Hail Mary time. And this is a difficult time good luck with this time of the year in terms of helping your students helping support your students to navigate this final stretch today. Hey, I’m going to talk with you yet, you know those students that you’re working with whether your parent or teacher and they just forget stuff all the time. They leave it in the wrong classroom. They lose stuff all the time. They spent all this time working on homework. It never got turned in that got a 0 on it those type of students why I’m going to talk a little bit about today about that type of students and I’m going to read an email from Mom name to call and answer a question that she has about one of these students. So By the end of this video you’re going to have about eight ideas to help the students. I’m going to go rather quickly, but you’ll have some concrete ideas with how it’s at least you’d like helped a lot of students really figure out ways to manage their stuff in a way that they can handle it and that they don’t feel overwhelmed in it and I’m going to go over some of those elements for you. Here is how the email goes first. You’re the best love all the help you provide executive function challenge kids question on your simple schoolwork system. How do you tell high school kids to manage carrying all of these separate folders and composition books. So basically they’re saying hot. How do you what what do you do what you tell them to do in terms of carrying all this stuff most of the times they can’t go there Locker until lunch and they may have three to four classes to prepare for and that’s kind of kind of why the zip through reminders helpful, but the only reason and they have a smiley face because they know that I’m not big on three ring by But the zipped one because of that zipper on it. It helps them contain their stuff most schools these days do not like carrot kids carry around their backpacks for safety reasons. I’m afraid my freshman will leave the sign math on the move on the Spanish any suggestions you have would be great. Thank you, Nicole. All right, so I have a date ideas that I’m going to go over here. First of all one thing that works for a lot of students has to have an AM and PM binder or an AM and PM accordion folder or an AM and PM zip binder or bag or backpack. Now, it may seem like Overkill but you don’t want these AM and PM things to be to giant things. You want them both slim down version. You’re familiar with my work, you know that I really am very minimalist. Very essentialist very I want my students to really have the minimum that they need the more stuff. They have a more stuff. They have they managed not only in school but also in life than their their stuff and they’re in boxes. So we want to slim down the stuff we want them to have left that we want them have what they really needs managed. So first step is that you can do an AM and PM version. You can tell her that and you guys can figure that out on your own not going to go into more diplomatic next color coding is so so so important. I don’t want my students to be thinking math. For example, I bought them to be thinking yellow. Okay, so maybe these two would be math or maybe read is science or whatever it is, but I want visually things to be very color-coded. I I want my students to get their stuff in the right place at the huge problem color-coding is 1 tip to help do that and I really take this seriously. I want the eye that is The kids are often very visual. They’re not often reading the words. They’re seeing the car. So use that next number three labels have got to be huge and clear and obnoxious. If you have the type of student release something in one class or at least something at home or whatever you want to have clear labels. I can’t tell you how many times when I was a school teacher that I saw somebody would leave a folder on the floor and two minutes later it be kicked all the way down. The hall papers will be all over that kids never going to get their stuff back in a meaningful way. And if their name was not on it, it’s never coming back if their names on it. It’s a lot harder for people to kick around something on the floor that has a human beings name on it. It looks more meaningful. So it’s more likely I’m not guaranteeing anything to get picked up and also to get back to the student. So somebody picks us up and they go. Oh that is Seth Perler folder. Then the one of the teachers or parents in the holler at one of the kids to be like, oh we’ll get that to the back to see. Or if you forgot sample put the name of the teacher like here it says Miss Smith. For example on the folder. Then they can go over this is stuff Brewers. I don’t know who that is, but it can go back to Miss Smith the math teacher and clearly this is math. So that knows not to put science or social studies or language arts in this folder because it says that you can even go so far as to put if it’s an a day or if it’s 6. You can go crazy and get all the details on here. I call that front-loading you can go and get detailed with trigonometry. You can have a big giant a more big giant math. I do recommend putting your name on the front and the back at the very least get your name on the back also, but you want big giant obnoxious labels, you can make it cool. You can make it graffiti. If you can make it art, I don’t care but get at the very least get a big clear clear clear label on it because I have had so many students be like, oh, yeah. I lost my planner and It’s they’ve used it for 3 months. But now it’s gone have to start with a new one or they’ve lost a folder with lots of working. They don’t even know what they just get the clear labels have I made myself clear on that one so far. So that was tipped. Number three. Next is the type of folder. So I generally recommend the cheap 50 Cent folders. Now you’re going to want to buy two or three of these because they do fall apart. But who cares you get two or three of them for the year you label him also that they’re done to an allspark. You can just throw recycle the one and get the new one, but I generally recommend these I don’t like the plastic folders because for kids that are are more messy. They can go like this and everything can fly out of the plastic one side like a cheap paper folder like this. Now, I do have some students that just use these simple manila folders and that’s it. So some of my students and I’m like look, Just can you get it in here? Can we at least use these now if your student is not using a zip binder or backpack or something? It’s more likely to fall out of this. So you want to consider every detail but with some students I just can you get it into this folder night. I use these for some students will use an accordion. However, none accordion folder for student who is not as motivated use a folder. Are they going to really pull out in the Quarry and set on their desk flip back the floor and on the accordion and go through to get it or can you do the three-ring binder that’s very few of my students successfully use a 3-ring binder to actually manage their stuff. So it’s not actually doing the job. It’s intended to do but it may work now as far as the zip binder that you are mentioning. I have had students break out or cut out the but the the Rings themselves and just used it, but you could probably find something else that zips but that is not about idea at all. If you have an a.m. And 2 p.m. Small zip thing or something that is enclosed that can keep you know, they have three folders for the morning through for the afternoon. Maybe the three in the morning or yellow with another color, maybe the three of the afternoon or blue with another color whatever you want to do. But if you can find a container like that or two that might make things easier. So I got in the type of folder. You got your pocket folders, you got your manila folders are accordions your 3-ring binders and then your zip binders next women talk about you mentioned. This is number five. You mentioned the composition notebooks, right? So if they have six composition notebooks one for each class that might be a lot to manage here is a trick that you can do you can have the front part of the composition notebook for one class. And they can flip it over and you can have the other side. Look they behind this sticky note for another class. You can also do this The Divided or you can make it create creatively divide it so that this is actually two notebooks. That’s probably enough room for one semester for a lot of classes. So this can actually be two in one. Another thing that I love is most I love them because they just they have a feel of if your kid is more creative. They feel it feels like an art book now. Let me show you the size comparison here is your composition notebook. And here is a Moleskine they are so small. So to have one mole skin upper class in the gun. You can do art all over them and decorate it and put their label it with her name so that it gets back to them. But it’s also it just it’s so small. These are so easy to carry that you can even fit them inside of a folder like this. There are so small. They’re just there is there is another perspective of how small they are. So think about the moleskins they’re kind of pricey for what they are. But whatever if it does the job who cares next number 6, you have to help them walk through the process of managing their papers in a folder many many many times if your relationship with your child is such that they will allow you to help them do this on a regular basis even daily for six weeks or so that’s going to help to have it. You know that to expect them to just do this then manage it and really be good at it. It’s not going to happen overnight it takes time. But in at least if you’re doing me SNL were the Sunday night overhaul that I teach if you’re doing at least once a week and overhaul on the folder get rid of everything. They don’t need everything. They still need to do something with pull it out so that it gets done and everything that just needs to be stored can go in here, but They need practice over and over and over walking through the process of managing the papers there really their folders never should be very thick. They really should never need any more than 10 or 20 papers in here at any given time for most classes on the last the teacher is forcing them to hold on to the papers. For some reason some teachers like to do binder Jax and stuff like that or folder checks or whatever but really what they need in here is their current work some families that I work with what happens as the parents will take everything out and archival for the kid until the teacher does the binder check that way the kids can only only has to keep in here or the things that are more current so that they can actually manage what needs to be managed and they can build the skill of managing the things in there in a rational way. Next number 7 when to do it for them. Look if your child is a lot of times I will organize this for them. I will see what doesn’t have a name on it have them put their name on it. I will straighten out papers. I’ll put it in a good order for them. I will remove things that are at the wrong subject put them in the right for a lot of times. I will do a lot of that for them at times. So if my student is working on a paper they’re working on their homework or they’re working on really the learning stuff the learning part of their classes. There are their homework. Then I often times will take this off their plate. Okay, and then at other times I will sit down with them be like let’s over all your folders now and I’ll go through it in a real detailed way on a night when there isn’t as much to do as far as their homework is concerned. So there’s a time and a place when to do it for them in your mind. The question you always want to ask yourself is is am I enabling them. I’m in am I giving them more of the Learned helplessness experiences with which we don’t want or am I in powering them in and having them focus on what they need to focus on so you kind of always want to be balanced in that question in your head and my last one is my number 8 is baby steps and persistence look like I said before it’s not going to happen overnight. You have to persistently help support your child to build the structures. I know the resistant. I know I get it. That is the number one problem that my students deal with his resistance in so many different forms. That is the number one thing you’re going to deal with this. Resistance. How do we help them to do? What is the things like building discover Organization? For example things that are good for their life or their own future for their own well-being. How do we help them build those skills when there is so much resistance that that’s the question here, right, but it That in the final tip is baby steps and persistence like just keep pushing on just trust baby steps are everything people want to see like, oh, yeah my kid figure out this new system. Now, they’ve got it and it’s awesome. It’s not going to happen like that. It does occasionally, but it’s extremely rare. That’s not how I get students to experience change in their life. What I do that works is baby steps over and over and over let’s let’s take the system and let’s see how we can refine it. Just that much more. Let’s see how we getting polish your ability to use the system. Just that much worse. Like it’s just bit by bit by bit and you have to trust me that this is what works with these type of students is these Tiny Steps, but persistently trying all all the time trying to just take them to the next level. Even if the next level is just a millimeter or fraction of a millimeter. With that again. My name is Seth Perler. What’s up, bro. Com. If you like this, please share with somebody right now and subscribe. You can also subscribe on YouTube. You can hit the Bell if you want alerts on YouTube, please subscribe to my blog shop fro.com where I send out freebies and updates every week generally on Sundays. And if you want to leave a comment on YouTube on the block with what what have you learned about this how do you help students who are losing things you have any tips and tricks that you used yourself or with children that you’re working with that is to help them to be able to manage their stuff. Go ahead and leave that in the comments if you want and have a fantastic day. I will see you next Sunday.